Crums Cemetery, out skirts of Windber, PA

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Crums Cemetery is haunted. The story of Crums is Rebecca Crum and her family were considered witches. This was back when if you were considered a witch, you were burned alive, or hung. So, they hung Rebecca and burned her family alive. Now she haunts her grave site. A few years back a couple went there for a romantic night. When they tried to leave, their car wouldn't start. The boyfriend told his girlfriend to stay in the car, he was going to the nearest gas station. Two hours later, the girlfriend was worried cause he never came back, she heard dripping noises and looked outside and seen her boyfriend hanging above the car cut to pieces. One night, we thought it would be fun to go visit this place, and we were taking pictures and there was a red demon thing in the one picture we captured of my friend Joey.

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starstarstarstarstar 		Just a graveyard
by: Joseph Muscatello

My Grandmother is Grace Crum and my great-great grandparents are buried there as well as great uncles/aunts and cousins. I finally made the trip this year and it was very peaceful and cared for.

If you trace your linage to a Powell, Crum, Oldham, Berkebile, Oyler, or Blackburn, from this area, you probably have relatives buried there.

Bottom line, its just a graveyard, not haunted at all! Please be respectful!
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by: Anonymous

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starstarstarstarstar 		Haunted places in and around Somerset County Pa.
by: Anonymous

Anyone interested in Genuine Haunted places in and around Somerset County Pa; Send me a message by Email to>> warlockdude85@yahoo.com Been involved in the Paranormal for over 20 years; I have investigated and encountered many Paranormal things as well have helped numerous people....... Genuine pics also..... here to help ; Thank you
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starstarstarstarstar 		Crum Cemetary........
by: Rich

If anyone is interested on going to Crum to experience or try and experience anything Paranormal; I've been there numerous times; the main thing is too show respect while you are there... anyone interested just send me an email to> warlockdude85@yahoo.com.
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starstarstar 		I have not been there but heard stories.
by: Ashley

Ok so my sister has went there before but has not experienced anything. She did say that it was creepy too. My dad tells me the story of the time my uncle went there and said that they saw orbs i guess. I dont like stuff that involves ghosts or anything but im trying to get used to this stuff. I have not been at crum cemetery, and i dont know if i want too because it is creepy. I do live in windber and im not that far way from the cemetery. i live bout 5-10 minutes away. Maybe someday someone will take me there i will only stay in the car and go during the day though. My dad likes to trick me and make me scared alot so i dont know how it would be going with my dad. And thats all i have to say. Just a little story and info. Oh and i have no relatives that are buried there as far as i know.
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by: Anonymous

No, not Oldham and not Crum. My great grear grandaddy is a stand alone in that place, surrounded with Oldhams and Crums. ☺
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by: Anonymous

to the comment from > Sherry; your relative wouldn't be an > Oldham would it?
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starstarstarstarstar 		Avikity to see ghosts
by: Anonymous

Not everyone will or can see ghosts all the time. Some people are more "in tune" with this sort of thing.. Naysayers generally have closed minds and naturally doubt things. Those with open minds who want to see things generally are more susceptible to this ability. Open minds make for more intelligent people while the opposite does the opposite for those less fortunate humans . Happy ghosting
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starstarstarstarstar 		Visiting the cemetery
by: Anonymous

Hey Crum relative...the place is open to the public, it's not gated or whatever. The man who takes care of it just asks that people be respectful. I, too, have a relative in that cemetery and it was a joy to watch my dad "meet" his great grandfather there. We are not Crums, by the way. I hope this helps.~Sherry
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starstarstarstarstar 		tracing family
by: Anonymous

my last name is crum I was told that some or part of my family from the 1800 to 1900 are buried there I was just wanted to know if I was able to look around and get pictures of some of the graves to find out what ones I am related to. my dads dad my grand father lived in Johnstown area all his life till he passed away after that my grandmother told me that when they got married he would take her up there to put flowers on a grave she couldn't remember the name but she said that he said it was his grand father I was woundering if I could come up and look.if I am able plz email me at ejcbadboy@gmail.com .

thank you Erik Crum
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by: Rich

In regards to having or asking for permission; It is open to the public as long as there is no Damage done; just be respectful..........any questions send me an email to> warlockdude85@yahoo.com
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starstarstarstarstar 		answers to questions....
by: Rich

I have been to the Crum Cemetary and also the > Dead Zone numerous times... I have been in Paranormal Research for over 20 years......anyone needing questions answered or just want to view my pics..... Send me a message to > warlockdude85@yahoo.com P.S. also I am a Wiccan Healer; need any help with problems in the Paranormal just send a message. Blessed Be!!!
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starstarstarstarstar 		Permission?
by: Anonymous

Is there any way to get permission to go up at night just to check things out? My friends and I are curious about the cemetery. And of course to be respectful about everything.
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starstarstarstarstar 		The Blue Baby
by: Anonymous

yeah...the blue baby. Ive seen it. Scary little thing. It was being pushed n a flaming stroller by the lady in white who waves her cane that shoots lightning. I tried to take a picture but it melted my camera.
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by: Mtizzle

The stories are true alright, we took a picture once we got there of the fog, plus we heard laughing when we got home we looked at the picture seeing a lady in the fog, then a baby with horns in the corner, scary huh? But if you want a really bad cemetary i know one, not that far away from crum, we were just there 2 nights ago and i dont wanna go back, there is a story of a blue lady there, which i didnt think was true until i saw it, i was scsred, i got sick, my friends said they saw an outline of a baby, which i do believe them, scary place you know, i wouldnt go there
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starstarstarstarstar 		Respect, please
by: Sherry

My g-g-great granddaddy is buried in this cemetery and I am absolutely in agreement with the Oldhams who take such lovely care of the place. Don't trash it, don't show disrespect in your "ghost hunting" endeavors. My father is 80 now, and he was so in awe of seeing this grave, one he never knew existed until I started doing the family tree last year. We made the trip up from Ohio and found his grave. We cleaned it with gentle brushes and left quarters out of love and respect. To know that this is seen as a "play ground" for people is disgusting. I am a big believe in Karma and in the power of the spirit world. Don't mess with the dead. Do not show disrespect. It will be visited back upon you, and I have seen it, so I know this to be absolute. To Mr. Rich Oldham and his family, the ones who put their time, their energy, and their money into this beautiful and peaceful place, I am so very grateful. On behalf of my family, I thank you.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Please Be Kind
by: Anonymous

What i would like to say is if you like to ghost hunt it can be very wonderful . I have been here many times at Crums . I have had some strange things happen but nothing really bad . I believe if you go out acting foolish and calling things to you they may be disturbed . But if you enter with respect you receive respect . I have many recordings a mist was in my camera on a very pleasant evening no reason for anything to be there . I simply asked if there was a spirit with us could he or she provide a name ? The name i received was Dave . An actual answer to an actual question . If you go there drinking and doing drugs or what have you and act Foolish what do you really think the reaction from spirits would be ? If they think they are still living then they expect you will harm them . I have been many places i have only had one bad experience and that was in a place by Pittsburgh Pa. I did nothing bad there but the growling was Crazy and when leaving there a burst of air came at me and my Granddaughter as though something may have been following us . Please if you do not want followed you need to respect the dead or the living should i say .These evil entitys can follow . You should say a Prayer upon arriving in a haunted place and before leaving as so they do not follow you . This is not about having just fun and games it is about respect and learning what could be for real . I am a true believer so please Respect the dead { LIVING }..
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starstarstarstarstar 		All in your scared head
by: Anonymous

Lived in the area my whole life been to crumb and the abandoned houses, never seen a ghost or anything just coyotes howlin
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starstarstarstarstar 		The Devil?
by: Anonymous

Toad- What's this about the devil? I'm surprised you guys still believe in the devil up there. I thought science proved there is no such beings a devil. We are a semi-advanced race of beings and this isn't 1660 where we believe all the hot women are witches and we need to burn them. The church has burned a lot of them and many other people were unnecessarily killed over silly religious beliefs! If there's anything going on at Crum cemetery, it has to do with some sort of magnetic forces or something in the quantum world. Which we don't fully understand yet but allows for disembodied spirits to materialize in our dimension from time to time.
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starstarstarstarstar 		True or Fiction
by: Anonymous

Funny, I'm nearly sixty years old and have lived in Windber all my life yet I've never heard about this murder / suicide people below have mentioned. Does anyone have any good information on the date / era that can be looked up on microfilm?

Also, Becky's grave in Elton has been one of those places that kids have visited at night for many, many years. I remember going there in the early 1970s and the marker was lying flat on the ground and cracked then. I doubt very much that it was broken because of people lying on it - it probably cracked when it fell (unless it was put there flat to begin with) and has gotten worse as it sinks into the grave beneath it. That's the type of thing that happens in old uncared for cemeteries - markers fall, break and stay there until they disappear. Miss Rebecca could probably care less!
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starstarstarstarstar 		blid farm murder suicide
by: toad

as a longtime resident of ogletown i remember the murder suicide at the farm at the end of roman road. the fella killed his wife and daughter and set the barn on fire and shot himself in his truck in the barn. late 70s early 80s.
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star 		lived in ogletown since 74.
by: toad

ive hunted,fished,partied when i was a kid there, still walk them hills all the time. coyote huntin at night, deer,turkey,fishing in the day. campin up there when i was a kid at 40 acre fields. never saw anything out of the ordinary. but, babcock lodge in the fence. thats a different story. must visit to believe. thats all i got to tell you ghost hunters. be careful your dealin with the devil and i wouldnt invite that.
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starstarstarstarstar 		wow
by: Anonymous

looks like one of them crazy MARSH BOYS from the mountain.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Please be respectful...It is a family cemetery
by: Julie Oyler Fetty

I have been to this cemetery several times as a child and an adult. My Grandmother was Grace Crum Oyler. Altho she is not buried there, her family is. This is a family cemetery folks - not the circus you are all making it out to be. I'm all for a gate. If I want to visit again, I have no problem asking permission. It is a beautiful peaceful place and part of my heritage...please be respectful.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Be Careful!
by: Anonymous

I am a life long resident of Windber and have visited the area of Crum and the cemetery countless times while fishing, hunting, hiking or just visiting the cemetery for a night of "investigating". Yes, I have captured some good EVPs in that cemetery (some very sad, some confusing, some made sense and some, at least to the living, made no sense at all) but I've also captured good EVPs in other cemeteries and buildings in the Windber area. The picture posted here is in my opinion a photographic anomaly and is in no way paranormal. In fact, the serious paranormal researchers that I've been associated with wouldn't give it a second look and would have a good laugh in the process.

Cemeteries, by their very nature, are spooky places because they represent what we humans generally consider the end of our existence as we know it. The human psyche, as well as that of all earthly life, is wired to reject death and do everything within our power to prevent it from happening. By far, the biggest reason humans naturally fear death is that we really have no idea what awaits us. Hence, death has been depicted as something dark and scary throughout the ages which in turn gives rise to our strange fascination with it. It seems in the end, we just love to find ways to scare ourselves!

The old village of Crum and its cemetery represent a time that has been forgotten by most people unless you're from this area and interested in the history. It is also located in an area that is considered remote and lacks routine police presence which is why it has become a mecca for booze parties or a place for the youth to visit at night looking for a good scare. In fact, the only reason its discussed in places like this at all is because our minds tell us it has to be "haunted" because (1) death is a concept we fear / reject, (2) the dead rest there, and (3) its out in the middle of nowhere. In reality, Crum Cemetery is a peaceful place that seems to hide nothing sinister and is no different than any other cemetery.

So, if you plan on visiting this cemetery, please do so in a respectful manner and don't leave behind your trash - cigarette butts included. If you're smart, you also won't go out there acting like a fool by desecrating grave stones or calling out to the deceased to "come and get me", "let's see what you can do", or "I'm not afraid of you" when in fact you are very afraid. I can tell you without a doubt that they can hear and see you as I have recorded direct answers to direct questions there and elsewhere. You just might find yourself unpleasantly surprised when someone or something follows you home and delivers you an answer to your requests!
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by: Anonymous

Ok, first I would like to say that this place is not haunted. Second, the only thing you should be worried about is a certain occult group that I will not mention that hangs out not far from the cemetery. Instead of going to crum cemetery to look for the dead, why not go to look at the history of it. The only thing you are going to hear is the sound of animals walking by at night. I just picked up a buch of litter there and get tired of the same want-to-be ghost hunters going to private property without permission. A real paranormal investigator will look at the history and the plot maps for the town that was once there. Gather info about the people buried there, and then doing a standard investigation. A true paranormal investigator won't even goto a cemetery unless it's to help preserve it. I have been a paranormal investigator for many many years with a successful group. Have respect and let the dead rest already.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Crum directions
by: Rich

anyone needs directions to Crum Cemetary just send me an email to> warlockdude85@yahoo.com i've been there many times; picture-taking and evp readings.......... also know where the dead zone is..........i have stories that will leave you believing not questioning
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by: Johnstownian

1st I think people are mixing up the story of "Becky's Grave" witches etc etc. with the Crum Cemetery. As for Becky's Grave it's not very far from Galleria at all. In fact, if you would drive around the mall on the outter most road and an area you get creeped out in... now you know why.. The stories all over online are bogus, her head stone had been destroyed back in the 80s by Teenagers going to "lay down on her grave" And you couldn't get up if you didn't believe, also she would call your house, etc etc.. 100's of stories went around school as everyone told their stories. I have always refused to go.

2nd I do remember back in the 80s visiting a house that was out on top Ogletown Mountain. It was a year or so later at least from the time a man had killed his family and then later killed himself in his vehicle. (maybe just my dad trying to scare me) but I remember the talk about it all. I remember seeing the vehicle still sitting. It was like the place was just abandoned. This story was from the 80's and aside from mentions on a few web sites referring to Crum cemetery. There is no real mention of this story anywhere that I can find. But since my father lived on top the mountain I know the place is "back in" a ways so pretty sure same place.

3rd There are OTHER Crum and Krum cemeteries, at least 2 or 3. 100% This one is near Johnstown PA. For the local folks it's going out over the Bedford Mountain. That little town you go threw before you get out to the top is Ogletown. And this place is certainly "out" on top the mountain
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star 		im the kid in the pic by: joey hornick
by: Anonymous

First and foremost, you are an idiot! I have been a paranormal investigator for over 20 years and it's people like you that screw it up for everyone else. These places are to be preserved and respected so they can be enjoyed by all. Second, This photo is completely fake. It doesn't take much to see the flaws. I uploaded the photo into a full spectrum program and you could see an over lay. All the abandoned places marked as historical that I've been to that are littered with beer cans, hypo needles and graffiti. I spend time at these places picking up all the garbage. I enjoy my Visits to historical places, as do others. Find another place to go, because if I catch you there I will hide in the shadows and call the police.
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by: sara

can i please have directions from bedford
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starstarstarstarstar 		Crum cemetary hau ted?
by: Rand Burkey

Ive read many posts here about weather crum cemetery is haunted or not. You cant always be sure if a place is haunted. You could visit a haunted place a hundred times and not experience any anomalies.

Most cemeteries will exhibit anomalies at some time or another, as will an old place, or even a place with magnetic fluctuations. The science is not positive yet but for some reason, when your in an area where there are magnetic variances occur, things from other dimensions bleed through. You can download a magnetic field detection app for smartphones and try it yourself. Most average areas read at around 38-42 milligauss. While ive seen mine drop as low as 23.

There is much more involved in detecting a haunted place than seeing a ghost or hearing strange things. My curiosity lies in understanding what it might be like to be in a higher dimension gazing back into the third dimension (we are in the third dimension-lol).
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starstarstarstarstar 		updated info on Crum
by: Anonymous

anyone with any information on where the town of Crum use to be please contact me or any info on the place called> The Dead Zone?? i have investigated the cemetary many times.... please always be respectful not childish....... contact me at>> warlockdude85@yahoo.com thank you
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starstarstarstarstar 		Been There
by: Ron Roon Levergood

Manny years ago back in the 70's and 80's a group of my friends Jim Hall, Larry Bader, Jim Gerber, T berkbile, John Rummel and a few other friends went to the crum cemtery and had some weird incounters, There was a large willow tree at the entrance of the cemtery, and when you walked under it , the leaves would move and shake but when you walked away it would stop and there was no wind at all. Also heard strange noise's like crying. I plan on going back there some day. Use to party alot in those mountains
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starstarstarstarstar 		Directions to Crum
by: Anonymous

What are the directions from Crum Cemetery if you are at UPJ??
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starstarstarstarstar 		im the kid in the pic
by: joey hornick

umm to all the people that think this is fake or photo shopped you are lame me and my friends dont even know how to use that shit!! i was all drunk that night being an asshole calling ghosts lame and shit and my friend was just snappin random pictures. we started headin home when half way down the road are friends called and said you have to see this pic! thats the day i started to beleave in the other side. So to all that think this is fake you can take aleap!!! Peace and Love!
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starstarstarstarstar 		Photoshopped Pic
by: Adam

I'm a graphic design major and I'm familiar and versed in identifying legitimate pictures and illegitimate. There are several tiny flaws left behind from editing software on this pic that I saw the second I saw the picture without even looking over it.
Also, the "demon" is an image of a teenage boy in a modern day t-shirt and the arm has been cropped and duplicated. A few filters were used on the figure after mild warping on various areas of the body.
Overall, this is a 6/10 on my rating scale. These people knew what they were doing with Photoshop (or possibly Gimp) but are pretty inexperienced. Only about 30 or so minutes were used on editing. My guess is the person who made this either had just stared dabbling in editing or found a crappy tutorial.

All of this aside, I've been to Crum's twice. Last night being one of them. Crum's cemetery has a powerful presence. Last night was a warm summer night but my party and I could see our breath and were chilled even to our toes, as if it were a winter night. Before arriving we were warm elsewhere and afterwards we were warm elsewhere.
My first visit my girlfriend took a picture in which a face appeared. The picture corrupted and deleted itself in front of us. Nothing too serious has happened as far as I know and I don't believe that there is anything malicious there.
If visiting, you should be more wary of violent rednecks. I have heard of countless cases of being chased by a white truck. My party and I were blocked in by a sedan and the white truck once, but we were in our vehicles and squeezed out a gap.
The only threat that I am aware of is that of human beings.
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by: Nic

Okay! This place is not haunted I have lived in Central City my whole life. As a teen we used to go there to freak each other out. Yet in all honesty nothing has ever happened at all. Its just a bunch of made up stories. Yes, there is a great deal of history in that area but nothing odd has every happened I have been there a ton of times and nothing seriously. There are stories about shade church being haunted, a house back that way that a family was murdered in being haunted and then crumb and guess what been to all of them millions of times and nothing absolutely nothing has happened. Let the dead rest in peace.
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starstarstarstarstar 		to whoever is in this photo
by: Anonymous

Sorry if I offended you. It just looks kinda strange. I have a large collection of paranormal images and this just doesn't look like what I'm used to seeing. However, im sure ive not seen "it all " in the paranormal world. Lol. You seem legitimately offended and that gives your story a bit more legitimacy. I'm gonna take a closer look and apply soime filters to see what happens.
Do u have any other images like this? If so, can u email them? Thanks
Staticmaker@Gmail.com
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starstarstarstarstar 		person in the pic again
by: Anonymous

this was not photo shopped i barly know how how to use a computer!!! lol
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starstarstarstarstar 		im the one in the pic
by: Anonymous

wow i don't even know who posted this but i did go back and a lot of freaky stuff did happen! So if u want a good scary take your girl friends there! You might get lucky if not you'll just be scared!!!!!!
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starstarstarstarstar 		halloween
by: Anonymous

me and some friends went there on halloween years ago. the oil drain plug fell out of my buddies car. We had to walk the entire way back to ashtola in the dark. kinda wierd that the drain plug fell out.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Directions to Haunted Places
by: Anonymous

once again; anyone needing directions to Crum Cemetary or that have questions concerning it or locating any other haunted spots; look me up......... i've been investigating for 20 years... seen them all and investigated all... email me at >> warlockdude85@yahoo.com thank you.....
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starstarstarstarstar 		Crum Cemetery
by: crystal

I grew up in Central city not far from Crum cemetery. I have been to Crum many times over the years and had many experiences and hear alot of stories. I live close to Crum still today. Feel free to check out my blog and contact me with any questions. I would also be glad to give directions or show you where it is located anytime. :) http://palocalghoststories.blogspot.com/
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starstarstarstar 		Crum Cemetery in PA
by: crystal

Please visit my blog to read more on Crum cemetery and the town of Crumb and other haunted areas near Central City and windber, PA http://palocalghoststories.blogspot.com/
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starstarstarstarstar 		Crums Cemetery RIP
by: Patricia

Thank you so much for sharing the ghostly tale of your daughter laying flowers at the grave of a kind and grateful soul. I really enjoyed reading it. I've never had the chance to visit Crums Cemetery but I hope to one day when I'm in the area. I'll remember to bring flowers and do the same as your daughter. You're right, people need to respect this area and enjoy this historical site.

I hope that one day you'll find the time to share your experience at Gettysburg.

Patricia (webmaster)
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starstarstarstarstar 		Someone sat b my daughter...
by: Anonymous

We decided to go to crums which we go often there ... One day my daughter decided to put flowers on a random grave that had probably not had any in years...we were sitting up by the bench and my daughter was sitting down in the middle off a little to the right of the cemetery.. She looked at me and said do you hear that (footsteps) she said i told her no i didn`t . as she was sitting there she jumped up began to cry and wanted to leave.. i asked what happened she saw someone sit by her she was so afraid..my older boy went over to where she was and sat down he simply asked while his recorder was running if someone had just sat by his sister the reply he had gotten was a calm voice that said (It was me) but not evil very calm and peaceful..i told my daughter to listen to him he was not going to hurt her..I believe it was who ever she lay the flowers on ..Came to her ..I love crums and i did notice that when people get bad stories it is when all kids are together i believe that they are afraid of teens ruining there place of peace..Please even if you don`t believe don`t go there acting foolish,,Respect the dead...Or should i say living..I was skepticle also till Gettysburg Battlefield..May all in crums cemetery R.I.P.
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by: Rand

Most of you who actually live in Windber or Ogletown, don't realize how rich the heritage actually is. There is much history to Ogletown, Crum Cemetary, and Windber itself.
Going back to Windber to visit is one of the highlights of my life. I remember when I was young, I couldn't wait to get out of Windber- Now I can't wait to go back. The blueberry fields, the old iron bridge, pine lake. All amazing things to see.there's no other place like it- and I've seen so many places around the world.
The Crum famly apparently had a daughter named Rebecca. The local villagers caught her trading herbs with the native indians and accused her of witchcraft. they hung and burned her. Then they hung the rest of her family.(Can't remember their names or I'd mention them). Becky was buried outside of the cemetary. And I forgot to look for her grave when i was last there. I'd like to mention that if any of you visit the ares, please be respectful and do not disturb any stones or anything in the area. This is a great and respected place.
As far as being "haunted", it does have an aura or "feeling" when you are there. I've never seen anything but the "feelings" are undeniably real.
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by: Anonymous

Looks like double exposure or something to that nature. It's really hard in today's world to have anyone believe a picture like this with Photoshop and other photo editing which makes it so easy to create a picture like this yourself.
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starstarstarstarstar 		My visit.
by: Anonymous

When my boyfriend and I went, we took our children to visit during the afternoon. We just wanted to find out where it was and see what all the hype was about. We heard stories, but are skeptical. It's a beautiful place, magical even, with the mountain view and the quiet serenity. We were respectful. Others, however, were not. There were headstones overturned and the disrespect of some jerks had me livid. We picked up the trash we found, and my boyfriend "J" started putting the headstones back in place. some were just too big and heavy, but he put back what he could lift. When we first got there, we turned on our recorders, not really a typical EVP session, just turned them on, figured we listen later on and see if there was anything. We visited for a little while.. never got any bad feelings, didn't see anything odd, it was peaceful. we got home, started listening to our recorders. i was carrying one, and so was he. Mine didn't have anything on it at all. His was 'normal' at first... we were talking to each other, so our voices are heard pretty clearly, but aside from ours, (and it wasn't our children, either, they were up on the bench sitting being respectful and they're all young, not any 'manly' voices lol) there was another male voice on there. It was ok, up until J started putting the headstones back in place, then the voice started. J was asking me questions, talking to me, and this voice was answering him! We could hear the voice's answer along with mine! It wasn't anything bad, just a normal conversataion! It sounded like he was standing right next to J, even walking around with him, right beside him. For example, I asked J, "It just makes me so mad, I don't understand why people would knock these down?" Then comes J's voice, I don't know. Then the other voice, Someone knocked them over. Stuff like that. This went on for about a half hour, and afterwards, our batteries were dead in both recorders, and you can hear me on the recorder say that my cell phone was just fully charged before we left, but the battery was drained.. and I said the same thing about my camera! I said, "I JUST put those new batteries in before we left! There's NO way they're dead already!" I think the voice we heard was awesome, not scary or anything bad like that, but just amazing! I don't know whether it's actually haunted per se, but I do know what I heard on that recorder!! it's a place I would visit again, and even if I don't ever get to hear that voice on any recorder again, it'll still be a really cool place to go see! If anyone gets the chance, take a trip and see it for yourself, just don't buy into all the hype and nonsense of people telling stories, because really it's just stories. It's not creepy, it's not scary, it's not the gates of hell people, it's a cemetery, where family is laid to rest, peaceful, serene, and amazingly beautiful! Treat it with respect, and honor the memories of those passed...
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starstarstarstar 		Will try
by: Awesome

I have family thay lives/died in windber. My great uncle was the mayor of the town before he died. My sister family reserching so atleast one person has to be buried up in that cemetary. So next time we go to windber we will go up there and take pics.
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starstarstarstarstar 		My relatives
by: Jesse Crum

Well, I have been there many times day and night. Nothing weird has happened. But maybe it's because I have relatives burried there. Or maybe it is because I too, am a witch....
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starstarstarstarstar 		SCARY
by: Anonymous

Once my big brother went there with his friends one night. They had full bars on their cellphones because they charged them before, so they could take pictures. Well guess what?!? The battery went straight down to no bars and my brother got to get a couple pictures that looked like demons!!! I never thought this was real, but when he showed me the pictures i got the chills and i knew it was real. I am sure not going there ANYTIME soon!!! That place is haunted!!!
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starstarstarstarstar 		Weird.
by: Anonymous

I went out there lastnight with a group of friends and we was walking around the place and we kept hearing screams then they stopped for about a half-hour after that we got bored cause nothing was happening so we went back to the cars and on my jeep was two mud handprints with long nails..sane in my buddy's car but no nails..there ain't no way one of us could of did it cause we was with each other the whole time.. So I can't really tell you for sure if that's a real pic but some weird stuff happens in that place..an me an two other cars turned off our cars on the bridge an they all started fine.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Interesting
by: Luke Harlin

Now I'm very knowledgable when it comes to the paranormal (you know Ghosts and Demons) not only that i am also a member of the Windber high school Video club and local Non-professional historian haha (it's a hobby in my spare time :) ). This Picture can't necessarily be a ghost or demon in this photo it would very well be a camra flare or any other various malfunction. But the historical aspect of it is pretty accurate, although in my findings i have been told that those member of the crum family were beheaded not so much burned...but since the history is so shady i can't say for certain. So thanks for your great addition to the paranormal wonder of this area
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starstarstarstarstar 		Ridiculous
by: Anonymous

Crum Cemetery has recently been lovingly restored, including a new bench overlooking the mountaintops. It's a beautiful area, with historic allure. Some stupid son of a bitch recently shot one of the tombstones with a shotgun, and I can only hope that he caught the ricochet right back in his face. I have deep family roots in this area, so the disrespect of some retarded reprobate with nothing better to do than disrespecting the dead --who cannot fight back-- is the mark of physical cowardice and the mental midget.

The story about the boyfriend is an urban legend. Sometimes he's dismembered, with his fingernails scraping the roof. Other times, it's the blood. I recommend developing an original story and publishing it. Until then, rest your little neurons and get back to playing with your food.
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starstarstarstarstar 		lots of hauntings
by: Anonymous

anyone needing directions to Crum Cemetary or who are interested in joining in on a trip to there or other haunted cemetaries and roads which there are alot of in Somerset County...let me know; drop me an email at> warlockdude85@yahoo.com also anyone interested check out my ghost pics on Facebook...... thanks; signed>> Richard Lehman Somerset
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starstarstarstarstar 		Crum Cemetary/Windber High School
by: Anonymous

Where exactly is Crum Cemetary? I have heard my father talk about it a lot since I was 7 years old and I want to go there. I Live along the Dark Shade Drive area. Im interested in finding out more about the Crum Cemetary.
I was also wondering if anyone had anything about the Windber High School History from since the school was open and they had classes on more than just the current floors they use. The one floor is blocked off except the time my Chorus class went to get things for a school play. If anyone has the COMPLETE school history, please let me know.
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starstarstarstarstar 		been there in 09; want to go back
by: Rich Lehman

to the girl referred to as > Zebra girl?? i've been to Crum; i'm a paranormal investigator; and have been to the other places also that you listed... you can contact me at>> warlockdude85@yahoo.com for directions and info. WHEN I WAS THERE I HAVE PICS OF MY DAUGHTER SITTING BY A TOMBSTONE AND I LITTLE GIRL STANDING BEHIND HER... sorry; i used caps there; didn't realize it was on... i also felt a tug on my pantleg and a whisper saying> it's alright Mister... send me an email; whoever wants to be part of the investigation or whoever wants to go see it
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starstarstarstarstar 		BS proven Wrong
by: Anonymous

You know... I have been a part of the Ogletown community since I popped out of my Mother. She died recently. But she and my Father made a busines, called the Hoyland Restraunrant. Anyone recall it??? Penny candy??? Anyone??? I GREW up around here. I don't care who owns the place now... There has ALWAYS been some of extra-curricular activity going on. And the OWNER of the property is trying to keep everyone away. I have lived here my entire life.. if you can't see anything.. that's on you.... I promised my wife that she will be able to dictate life back to eveyone else. She may very well call me CRAZY!@!!!!!!!
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star 		fake.
by: Anonymous

its called photoshop..
ive taken many photoshop classes and have done pictures just like this where it looks like a ghost or demon like figure in the picture. this could be a camera malfunction, photoshop, etc. and its not that hard to do, and honestly it doesnt look to real to me.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Stories!!!
by: Tnoon

I have not heard alot of these things you people are telling on here. I grew up in ogletown and spent alot of time in those mountains. The cemetary, the dead zone been to all and saw nothing felt nothing. Have been to crum alot and with many people but never experienced anything out of ordinary. I do ask you don't destroy or vandalize the place there is still family members that take care of the place, and if you visit it you should take care and not leave garbage or anything for them to clean up
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starstarstarstarstar 		interesting...
by: Becky (Sendek)

I also grew up in Ogletown and have visited the cemetery on a few occasions. I always found the dates on the headstones very interesting. Nothing paranormal on my visits other than feeling saddened by the infants buried there. It is a very awesome little cemetery and does deserve the respect everyone is asking for! We spent many, many weekend nights riding around in Crum fields when I was little, they are no longer open to the public. There are several old foundations in the fields. I LOVED it out in the mountain!! Nothing strange EVER happened to us, and we did spend alot of time in that area.

I still like to visit the "spring" every year when i visit the mountain to pick huckleberries. Always heard the story of a man who killed his daughter and hung himself (or committed suicide in some way).....but NEVER heard of the boy who was going to walk for gas and wound up chopped up?? Somebody has watched too many horror movies...and seriously...who would even try to walk for gas from way out there anyway!?

If anything, I think it's really neat that the little town of Crum has so much interest. Maybe the spirits are only nice to people who grew up there, whatever the reason, I'm happy to be part of it.



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starstarstarstarstar 		look closely
by: Anonymous

That is almost definitely a double exposure. If you look closely at "Joey" he has on a dark short sleeve t-shirt with a gray or white long sleeve underneath. He also has a cigarette in his left hand. Aside from the red hue (which is common in cases of double exposure), the "red demon" appears to have a dark short sleeve shirt with a lighter long sleeve underneath, and the left hand is up to its mouth like it's taking a drag of a cigarette -- coincidence? Because of it's human shape and the fact that it almost exactly matches the clear image of "Joey" there can be little doubt that this is anything but an exposure issue.

Not saying the cemetery isn't haunted, just that this picture is easily explained and clearly not a ghost, demon, or apparition.
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star 		urban legends.
by: Anonymous

Go to blockbuster and rent the movie called urban legends. It is like half way through the movie you will see that the guy being hung above the car is right there. And the houses are down the road by one of the many hunting cabins in ogletown. They are called the murder houses and there were no witches or anything. The man that lived in the one that is caving in went crazy and supposedly killed his wife and kid(s). Then he was said to of locked himself in the garage at the top of the hill with his car running which killed him. And the story at crum is not really a big story just that the caretaker leaves his headless dogs out to get the kids that damage the place. So stop saying all these random stories that most of us know aren't true considering we have lived here our whole lives and so have our parents and their parents and everyone after that. My whole family has lived here their whole lives and no one has ever heard of that happening out there. Therefor don't try taking scary things from movies.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Cemetery Gate
by: Rich Oldham

Hello All, I was at the cemetery to mow the grass and pick up the trash this past Saturday Sept. 18. I noticed alot of ruts in the grass at the top of the grounds and even down around the first row of headstones. These ruts really take a toll on my mower. Keep in mind it is my own time and money going into keeping the cemetery presentable and neat. If certain people continue to drive through the cemetery I will be forced to put up a gate at the entrance. There is plenty of room along the Crum road and near the entrance to the cemetery to park and walk back to the grounds. Its only a short walk of +/- 50 yards.
Thank you.
Rich Oldham (Caretaker/Owner)
rwoldham@atlanticbb.net
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starstarstarstarstar 		About the "red Ghost" in picture
by: Anonymous

I've been interested in paranomal subjects my entire life. SO as far as this image of the "Red Misty Looking Ghost" goes(in the above picture).....at first glance, by me, it looks "photoshopped". In other words, "fake". HOWEVER..... I must import it into an image analyzer to look for pixelation differentiation & other clues to determine it's authenticity. I have pics of real entities if you'd like to see them. If they're not at myspace.com/randburkey, just go there and email me and I'll send them to you.
-Why are we here? to find out why we are here!

STATICMAKER
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starstarstarstarstar 		CRUM CEMETARY
by: Rand

I was raised in Ogletown & Windber and have always loved the feeling I get at this cemetery. I love the mountain, the springs, the old iron bridges, and the blueberry fields. I moved to FL about 20 years ago and every time I go home to visit, Crum Cemetery is one of the first places I go. Each time I hold my breath until I can see that no ignorant vandals have damaged anything. It's sad what a few disgraceful kids have done to some of the stones. These are resting places for somebody's family! Although I have no family (that I know of) buried there, I highly encourage respect for this unique site- as well as any other resting place for that matter.
The feeling I get when visiting Crum, is one of a kind. It may not be "haunted", per se, BUT that's not to say that sprits are not "hanging out" there at their resting place. Although I have not seen anything unusual (on images or in person) I, personally, can feel their presence. I have an uncanny ability to sense the presence of spirits and have seen real ones on that very same mountain (near my grandma's old house). If you?d like to see the pictures of the tombstones at Crum, you can see them at my Myspace page. OR you can email and I'll happily send them to you. If anyone who has family buried there and would NOT like me to distribute, please let me know by emailing me. (I don't want to upset anyone.)
So, in summation>>> CRUM CEMETERY is an amazing place with much history attached. Oh yeah...if you decide to visit, PLEASE be respectful and don't leave your trash like some people do. If you go there to drink beer and hang out - BUT BE RESPECTFUL and throw your cans in the trash or take them with you. It's only simple & common decency that you should exude anyway when visiting a site like this- Besides, if you were raised in this part of the world, you should automatically know how to be decent. This being said, I've met people from all corners of the world and almost every city in America. Ironically (and I am my own conscientious objector) I find that the most pleasant & decent people I've met, come from this tiny area of the world known as Windber -(& Ogletown ? Which resides on the outskirts).
RB
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starstarstarstarstar 		Hello
by: Rich Oldham

Hello All, My name is Rich Oldham and I am the current caretaker/Owner of Crum Cemetery. My family has been taking care of the cemetery for years so Me, my Father and Brother in Law organized the Crum cemetery caretakers commission and purchaced the cemetery grounds from the Berwind White Coal company a few years ago. I am the president and only active member of this commission. My father has failing health and my brother in law is buried in the cemetery next to my sister. While it is now a private family cemetery I have not put up a gate to keep people out. I feel this will only add to the destruction and desicration of our beloved resting grounds. So please, feel welcome to visit but take your trash with you when you leave. In the future I plan on planting some shrubs and adding flowers and a few more benches. I'd also like to set up some trash cans if no one will steal them. As far as the grounds being haunted....I doubt it. Sorry to burst everyones bubble. I've been there in the morning, afternoon and at night and the only thing happening there is drinking and other types of messing around, purely of the human kind and not paranormal. I have even had our priest bless the graves and the grounds. I have family buried there dating back to my Great, Great Grandfather. The spring with the pipes at the bottom of the hill is close to where his house used to be. It was his spring. In closing, This place is very dear to my heart. My Dad will soon be buried there to rest near his daughter and so to shall I end up there to rest in our beloved mountain. PLEASE RESPECT THIS HALLOWED GROUND. I have talked to many of you in person when you have visited our cemetery. Some have asked what can you do to help. I only ask that if anyone witnesses any unlawful activity to write down a licence plate and post it here and I will contact the appropriate athorities. It is patroled by the Pa. State Police. Also, Thank you to the people who have picked up trash when they have visited.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Owners of Crum Cemetery
by: Ellen

Well, my name is Ellen Oldham and my husband Rich owns Crum Cemetery. His father Bill owned it and when he was unable to care for it anymore he passed it down to us. My husband's relatives are buried there, grandparents, uncles, sister, etc. On any given week during the summer you will see us out there cutting grass. As a matter of fact we were there last night (8/30/10) until dark. The cemetery is NOT HAUNTED. There are a lot of stories going around out there but we can honestly tell you they are just stories. We take care of the cemetery out of respect for my husbands family and everyone else buried there. Please respect the cemetery when you visit. Remember that everyone buried there is someone's family.
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starstarstarstarstar 		SAD
by: Anonymous

We Was There On Aug 26,2010 Got Lots Of Great Pics With Orbs And A Sad Feeling When Going Down Into The Village,Also Found The 3 Houses About 2 miles From The Cemetery On The Bottom Road Would Like More Info On The Houses, Name Of The Families That Lived There? Please Post If Any Info,Also Please Dont Destory Anything If You Go There....Thanks From Windber Pa And Connellsville Pa.......
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starstarstarstarstar 		Ogletown resident
by: Pleasant Noon

Crum has always interested me. Being a lifelong resident of Ogletown, new stories are still being told. I ventured to Crum cemetary one time. My husband took me and a friend of ours. It was late at night, obviously. Living out in the middle of these woods... you learn to recognize the sounds emitting from these dense trees. I heard nothing out of the ordinary. We purposely left the car unlocked. On the way to the cemetary and upon finding it, I did get sick, but I was pregnant at the time so I chalk it up to that. The tombstones are decayingly beautiful but I didn't feel any paranormal prescence of any sort. I didn't have a camera, so I was unable to take any photos.

After about an hour or so, we headed back to the car. And much to my creep out factor all doors were locked. I personally wanted to get out of there. But the car would not start. I thought my husband was just messing with me, but even I tried to start the vehicle, to no avail.

We all leaned up against the car. And then came the cold goosebumps. It was a very hot humid dry heat type of night. But I started freezing. It was almost in unison at how we all began to shiver, mentioning how frikkin cold it was all of the sudden. I will tell you this, what I seen that night I will never forget. Being that it is very dark out there you can only see as far as your eyes adjust in the darkness. Eyes can play tricks on the mind, but this was nothing like that. There in front of the car, was a smoky vision of a woman, there was no face, just a shape, and for some reason it just appeared old to me, very very old... we all seen it. And then it was gone. No screams. No ill will feelings. Just as though it was passing by and stopped for a moment. It was almost as if time had frozen for a brief moment and we were permitted a glimpse of history. We all knew it was time to get the heck out of dodge, so we tried the car again, and it started right up.

Now with the doors, I don't know. And I have no explanation. The car not starting could be chalked up to something like Gravity Hill, here in Pennsylvania...

(its a place where you put your car in neutral on this hill, and it rolls uphill, instead of down... its very neat!! Here's a link: www.GravityHill.com)

...maybe there's some type of serious electrical charge in the area. No cell phones work out here, so who knows... Now the image... was merely a ghost. Strange things happen in these woods. We've all had a ghost in our own homes at one time or another out here. You just get used to them. Some like to open cupboard doors, others will move items from one spot to another, some are in human form, my ghosts are usually in animal though. Crum Cemetary is definitely worth the experience, in a respectful manner.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Shame - Shame - Shame
by: Harry

THIS CEMETERY HOLDS SPECIAL MEMORIES TO MYSELF AND MY FAMILY. NUMEROUS RELATIVES OF MINE HAVE THEIR FINAL RESTING PLACE THERE. OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, SOME HAVE DECIDED TO DESTROY TIP OVER GRAVE STONES, DRIVE THRU THE CEMETERY AND LEAVE RUTTS IN THE LAWN. MY GREAT UNCLE FOR YEARS TOOK WONDERFUL CARE OF THE CEMETERY MOWING THE GRASS TO KEEP IT BEAUTIFUL AS HIS WIFE, SON, INLAWS AND SO ON WERE LAID TO REST THERE. I FIND IT MOST HEART BREAKING THAT SOMEONE WOULD DO SUCH A THING AS TO DISRESPECT THE DEAD. THINK ABOUT THIS, ONE DAY YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES WILL PASS AWAY. HOW WILL YOU FEEL IF YOU GO TO THE CEMETERY TO PUT A FLOWER ON THEIR GRAVE,PAY RESPECT TO YOUR MOTHER OF FATHER AND FIND THEIR TOMBSTONE TOPPED OVER AND PUSHED OFF THEIR GRAVE SITE INTO THE CEMETERY? IT IS A GUTLESS HURTFUL FEELING THAT YOU EXPERIENCE. IF SOME DAY WE ARE JUDGED ON OUR CHARCTER, I PRAY THAT THOSE THAT FEEL THE NEED TO DO THIS ARE SEVERELY JUDGE BY THE ALL MIGHTY GOD. IT'S OK IF YOU WANT TO VISIT THE CEMETERY TO EXPERIENCE PARANORMAL ACTIVITY, BUT I"M NOT SURE THAT THIS CEMETERY IS THE ONE WITH SUCH ACTIVITIES. I READ ALL YOUR STORIES AND FIND THEM TO BE UNREALISTIC. MAKING UP SOMETHING TO JUST KEEP PEOPLE VISITING THIS CEMETERY AND TO WRITE ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE AT NIGHT IS A WORTHLESS CAUSE. VISIT DURING THE DAY AND SEE THE BEAUTY THAT OTHERS DID WHEN THEY CHOOSE TO MAKE THIS CEMETERY THEIR FINAL RESTING PLACE. I KNOW THERE IS DAYTIME STORIES ALSO BUT I'M NOT SURE I MEASURE THEM TO BE TRUTHFUL. I DIDN'T WRITE THIS TO BE UNKIND. ONLY TO ASK IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE DESTROYING THIS CEMETERY TO PLEASE STOP THEM AND ASK THEM TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING. IT IS AN UNJUST AND HORRIBLE THING TO DO.
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starstarstarstarstar 		creepy!!
by: brittany

well miranda and me went on the same night, except i went down by the woods and everything with her brother and his friend while her, her mom, and our other friend stayed in the car. while me, her brother, and his friend were out of the car, and rooming around, we really didnt feel anything until we walked down alittle closer to the older grave stones. we started to feel sick. we decided it wasnt scary enough so we decided to walk down by the woods past the older graves so that we could read them better. mirandas brother took two steps,(by the way, miranda and her mom and our friend were out of the car by then, just not to far away from it), and something, we dont know what but soomething like pushed the leaves aside in the woods and chased us. we got in the car it started perfectly fine and that was that. if you have any ideas to go there, take a freakin weapon!! it will help you tons.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Umm
by: Miranda

Well if your looking for the cemetary the best thing to do to find it is google map it because it is very hard to find. We went there and there are very old stones. We all didnt feel good after we left there. Nothing happened to our car though. There is a farmer that lives by there and if you go up there partying he will get very mad. If you go there always have a weapon because I lived there and its not safe without one. We had a bat and a gun. We went to the "dead zone" and you dont get a good feeling there but we didnt experience anything there. The door has a lock on the outside and it looks like a normal house on the inside. Theres a gate infront of it too. Its competely pitch black back there. I mean NO street lights. Bring flashlights too.
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starstarstarstarstar 		somerset people
by: Anonymous

for those who left the comment about somerset people wanting to go, i know exactly where it is n been there many times. contact me at jerrysalley@yahoo.com n well go
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starstarstarstarstar 		Directions
by: Anonymous

For those of us who are reading these comments and would like to go PLEASE post detailed directions!!!! There is a group of us from Somerset who want to go but do not know how to get there.
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starstar 		Get it straight
by: Anonymous

before you tell your story next time you should check to see how many times it was told that is the oldest one hanging from a tree all slashed up that is one of the oldest camp fire tells from my childhood and many others as well so please get your facts right you make those of us that do paranormal work look bad i lived in windber been there and yes there is somthing going on out there but not what you saying
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starstarstarstarstar 		it is haunted
by: Anonymous

i went out crums cemetery and i heard the mob saying get her and get them and i knew it was them and we heard someone walking in the forest behind us and it was really windy and then i heard someone say we dont want you here and something told me that we should leave and the car wouldn't start at first but then it did after 5 mintutes and on the way home i was sitting in the car with my dad and my cousin and my dads friend and i was talking into the voice recorder and i told rebecca that i could feel her pain then my cousin took a deep breath in and then he went blank and i knew someone was in him and i felt like she was in the car and we were trying to get him back but nothing was working then i said something to rebecca that i think made her feel better and i was looking out my window and i was a little scared and shaking then i felt someone touch me and i screamed and i heard rebecca say "Thank You" but she was in my cousin and she used him to say thank you to me i was so happy that i heard that and i felt better bout my self and i knew that i made rebecca feel better and that was the first time that ever happened to me but my cousin came back after she left. And i cant wait to go back to the cemetery this Saturday.
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starstarstarstar 		Crum's Cemetary, Windber,PA
by: Anonymous

I have been to Crum's Cemetary when I was a small child, I have great-grandparents buried there, I would like directions how to find the cemetary. I know I still have relatives in the area. My great grandparents in on a farm. Please email me: conicmt@verizon.net
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starstarstarstarstar 		P.R.I.M.A.L. and Crum Cemetary
by: Osirus

My paranormal research group go to Crum Cemetary almost every week with cameras and voice recorders and almost always come back with something. It is very difficult for spirits to manifest in the "here and now." That's why you should take recording equipment with you and review it once you go back home. Also, you can't go to a site one time, get nothing, and consider it a dead zone (no pun intended). The day you decide to go might be a bad day in terms of energy that the spirits can use to make contact.
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star 		Take a closer look at the photo
by: Anonymous

Not to say the place isnt haunted. i have never been there. however, if you look, u can see outlines of that guys arms and stuff in the red swirl thing. its probably a camera or reflection issue.
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starstarstarstarstar 		scary stuff
by: jordan

IM 10 years old and its not that scary but when i went i saw red eys in the woods and heard babies crying and when we left there was hand prints on the windows ITS SCARY AS CRAP
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starstarstarstarstar 		Meh....
by: greg

I agree with an earlier poster, the "ghost" in the pic is just the kid in the pic with some xposure tricks. Tho. i will say not too far from crum, in the "dead zone" there are some old abandoned homes and i have been there and had some creepy stuff happen. Myself and two friends were there and there was definitely movement in the window of one of the old homes Which we had just came out of and was up until that point empty. we all noticed the movement and immediately left.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Crum Cemetery
by: Mike H

I live in Los Angeles, CA and i grew up not far from Crum Cemetery, I have been there many, many times and i do know the story about Rebecca, and her family, is it true, i dont know, but i do know there are many strang things that go on out there, me and my friends have seen and herd thing when we were in high school, nothing was ever cought on tape, but i do believe that area is
haunted..
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starstarstarstarstar 		stupid people
by: Ashley

I can't believe how ignorant you people are, no respect for the dead, terrible, i am sure the web master loves to hear these stories but they are awful and I am sure she would appreciate if you have something to share at least it be paranormal, for some of us we have had terrible experiences dealing with the paranormal and we are out looking for the truth, and if you can't respect the living and the dead then don't go there, I go there hoping to communicate with any astral being cause maybe then that would be some kind of proof that there is not just us living on this earth and maybe just maybe I could get some information about crum because all the stories i get are bogus, and around that area nobody seems to tell me the truth, something is weird and I am destined to find out what really happened and why all of crum just got up and left
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starstarstarstarstar 		The Crums ride Quads
by: Goast Hunter

Last night, my friend, me, and my other friend, went to crumb. i mean crum. it wasnt scary. we sat on the bench and my one friend said "rebekah, it wasnt ur fault." and my other friend said "rebekah yes it was" as soon as that happened. a man in a truck, with wings, flew at us and threatened to shoot us with his shotgun bc we live in southwestern pa where everyone is a redneck and doesn't want you on their land. we had problems with my friends iphone, which was the only thing that happened weird...he forgot it. we went back up that road. and on out way out, we stopped on the bridge and turned off the engine. we sat there for a while, and hoped for the best. i felt something run down my leg. i peed my pants. then i tried to start the car. to my surprise...it started without hesitation. i was surprised bc usually it doesnt start. apparently rebekah and her family, likes to help those people who visit them and leave gifts of iphones. the end.
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star 		Nothing There
by: Anonymous

I went to Crum 2 weeks ago with a few friends, I didnt see nothing when i was there. yes i heard a few things BUT it was rainin out so it could have been an animal in the woods.. However; 2 of the people i went with say they felt like someone was grabbing their legs and saw red 'eyes' in the woods, but again i didnt see anything or feel anything. I dont believe in this type of stuff anyways so when i went, it just confirmed to me that people just like making stuff up.
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starstarstarstarstar 		wish i could find again
by: zebra girl

its been a few years since i visited crum cemetary. not sure if its the one in windber or the one in new paris, either way it was freaky and i'd lvoe to find it again but i cant. i was dating a guy from the area and he took us ghost hunting to all the local cemetaries and bridges and such. this particular cemetary stood out with strange occurances. on the way up the dirt road i just was over come with chills and could hear the howling of a dog and the whole time we walked the cemetary and the former "village" through the woods we could see greenish glowing eyes as if from a wolf/dog of some sort, but never saw an actual animal, just as if it was watching us and let me know of his presence. when we pulled inside the gate of the cemetary the car would shut off and not start again. i know he wasnt just goofing because we all tried to start it, and had to push it just past the entrance and it would then start. further into the woods we came to a big open field where the trees had a green glow to (i figured it was a special moss in the moonlight) but when you went to the tree there wasnt anything growing on them. there was also a huge catapult the flung to a fire pit. we assumed we shouldnt have been there and left. to this day i havent been able to find this or many of the other places he took me to. i'd love to go to them all again! There was also a cemetary in Listie, and berlin as well as some bridges in the area or near central city? i have drove around and around and have never found these places!
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starstarstarstarstar 		just copy and paste it into ur web bar
by: Anonymous

thats all u have to do thanks
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starstarstarstarstar 		Crums Cemetery Bench
by: Patricia

Hi,

I'm sorry your photo isn't showing up here, for it to show you'll have to write a new page about Crums Cemetery and upload the photo.

I'd just love to see the photo you're trying to show us about the bench. If you have time I'd appreciate if you'd start a new page.

Patricia
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starstarstarstarstar 		picture
by: Anonymous

sorry about all the other post dont know why it postede some many time but please take them off here the real pic the last one didint work. check out the bench

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h198/Sweetascandy2146/l_5dfdfcdc379b4d10934b14ba5835b350.jpg
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starstarstarstarstar 		Isn't there anyone???
by: Anonymous

I have not been to this particular cemetery, but I know where I live the only people that seem to destroy sacred ground like this are TEENAGERS.PLEASE respect the grounds upon which you walk at any time of the day that you are there. These happen to be burials of PEOPLE just like you.....so respect them! And, oh, while I'm at it, why don't a few of you pay attention in school and LEARN HOW TO SPELL!!!!!!!!!!(it may help you out in the long run).
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starstarstarstarstar 		another weird pic
by: Anonymous

hey readers first off id like to say that i am a firm beliver in goast and paranormal activitys and all that because i find it very very interesting any way id like to say something about this pic posted on this page i myself personally know this person in the pic and the person that took the pic and i probably know the ppl that was with them on that nite i have never been to the cemetary and im not so sure if u want to go or not but this is not the only pic that was taken by these ppl that nite there was one other pic that the driver of the car took with his cell phone when everyone was in the car getting ready to leave the driver turned around and snaped a pic of the same person in this pic u c here with his cell phone and it looks as if there was a white figure leaning on the back window of the car looking down at the back of this kids head not sure if it is paranormal activity or not i haveent seen that pic in almost 3 or 4 years but it is most defiantlly creepy to me o ya and everyone is right that place to not a place to go party and trash everything so please dont do it
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starstarstarstar 		What a peacful place.
by: --pm

I grew up not far from the Crum Cemetery. As a child we often drew water from the spring below the cemetery, so I have very good memories of this site. Every fall I visit this cemetery and just spend time walking around the stones, and enjoying the beauty of nature. It is a shame how some find it necessary or perhaps "fun" to desecrate the graves and stones. If you had relatives buried there, as I do, I wonder if you would have such disregard for the bodies at rest. Having a place to remember those who have passed on, some quiet time to think about them, and to recall good times spent with them, is a peaceful and comforting experience. Shame on those who tip over stones and leave trash behind. I am grateful for, and appreciate, those who keep it mowed and respectfully reset the stones. Thank-you.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Let them rest
by: Anonymous

Why don't all of you leave this place alone. It's a cemetary and that's all it is . Let me guess when you take photos ur thrilled to see all of the mystical orbs. There's no possible way they could just be bugs. And the screams you hear could not be the wild animals that call this area home. It must be some kind of paranormal activity, right. And i betcha you are all so disappointed ur leaders from paranormal state no longer have a show. Their findings were always so credible. Oh crap another demonic possession. When you are there be careful bigfoot does exsist and he carry's a big stick.
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starstarstarstarstar 		crum
by: central city

I have been going up to crum cemetery for a few months now and i can say that it is sad what people do to the tombstones...but some people dont know that a few yards away there is someone that lives there...if you ever come to a gate that opens by it self , don't go in. the gate will close behind you locking you in and then the guy who owns it comes flying down the driveway and threatens to press charges..it happened to me a few days ago.
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starstarstarstarstar 		there was more than the 3 of us...
by: Anonymous

very-very interesting...the stories of rebecca crum's home being burnt to the ground as well as her family's homes as well has got to have some truth because foundations from that time era are everywhere and the paths made of beautiful stone were once traveled by the folk that had lived there. What is the true story of this once little village? I went there with my neighbor and my husband during the day and it was beyond what i had thought to find...
I can't tell you that i was scared in any way however, there were a few times that we all stopped in our tracks after hearing a meek screech in the woods around us. We went to the cemetary only to find out that my neighbor who was adopted and raised in that area has the same last name as several of the headstones-OLDHAM. It was very emotional for him. As we headed out towards the car I got goose bumps all over my body and something wanted me to turn back around. As I did this I took one last picture. That picture is the only picture we took that had orbs in it-7 to be exact. The driver's side door handle broke off as my husband tried to get in and the locks haven't worked right for us since that night. We are definately going back to investigate the truth as to what really happened to the Crum family that lived there. These woods are haunted with a sadness I shared while there that i will never forget.
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star 		Without Proof
by: Anonymous

I am a paranormal investigator and all I can say is without proof of my own I can't say if the stories are true or not.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Tomorrow night...
by: Anonymous

i just moved into mount pleasant, PA and as my new neighbor and i were talking-come to find out we both love the paranormal. He began telling me about these places around where he grew up that he had found while riding his dirtbike that were haunted...which led me to this web page. we are going there tomorrow night and i will definately let u know what we find...or dont find. He told me that the last time he was there, he lost his barrings until dawn...
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starstarstarstarstar 		my experience
by: artbabe97/windber

Just about a month ago me and 3 others ventured to Crum during the day, since our friends were never there. With respect we showed them around, looking at all the tombstones. I also took them towards the newest tombstone..knowing the story behind it. (it is a sad one) The whole time with a heaviness in my head. I really dont like the place, but thought since it was during the day I would be ok with all around me. Well..getting towards the new stone...I immediately was overcome. A sharp pain to my left side of the head and I started to fall/pass out. All I could feel was hurt. I had to leave quickly to the truck..got to the truck and just broke out in tears unexplainable. We left. I am not sure why it happened. I know lots of people disrespect the place and it makes me sad. Lots of kids are buried there and I feel this place has deep stories. Please keep in mind, anything can happen at anytime...if they wish it. It would be cool to see ghost hunters explore, but its pa...so fat chance. Just remember, respect this place. I did and I still don't wanna go back. Peace to all.
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starstarstarstarstar 		creepy
by: Anonymous

me and my friends have been to Crum cemetary dozens of times as well as the slaughter house in ogle township. very creepy. The weirdest story i ever heard were to kids from around this area went to crum cemetary one night. the next day, both died in a car wreck. could be a coincedence? who knows but it is creepy up there as well as the slaughter house.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Crum
by: Anonymous

We were just at crum last night and all though nothing happened in the cemetery its self on the way to the bridge it was like we got trapped in the twilight zone or something.....we kept passing the same things without going in circles and the road just kept winding downhill to the left....when we finally made it to the bridge we turned around (cause it's closed) and heading back the road was windey and we could see two sets of our tire tracks in the dirt instead of just one...

but if u really want somewhere to go go to the murder houses in Windber....someone kept pulling a my friend and one reached around me, but it hit my blessed necklace and disappeared, I also have pics of claw marks on the back of my car....and they werent animal marks either
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starstarstarstarstar 		respect
by: Rich Lehman

at times when individuals do not hear or see anything at these sites does NOT mean ; nothing is paranormal.. just means they have no reason to show or make themselves known at that time. Disrespect is a major problem at Crum Cemetary; you can't respect don't go. any comments; send them to rbljazzy@aol.com
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starstarstarstarstar 		maybe these stories are getting mixed up with stories from other counties/states?
by: Anonymous

After doing some history research on Crum. We have found that there once was a town where this cemetary still resides. Due to most of what was left of the town. It was torn down when the Water company had purchased the land, that is located in our state forest.
But the down fall to the story provided here. There has been no finds to a "Rebecca Crum" and her family of so called "witches". At least not protaining to this Crum Cemetery here in Pennsylvania.
So if anyone has found history that we may have over looked. Please let us know. We'd like to keep the story alive an maybe even prove its real and "Rebecca Crum" isnt ready to move on.

Regardless its still a fun tale to share.

It's just we have spoken to a few people that do the up keep on the property. An they have noticed alot of things that are not welcome. They are well aware of the stories of the cemetery. An they know some are curious to see what happens when checking them out. But they are not going to talorate destorying the property. Although there are no signs up. They do have people that watch the grounds due to people not being able to respect the property.
To any of you whom deside to venture to this site to see what you may find. Please be aware, That if you are caught doing anything more than looking, take pictures, ect...You will be Fined! So please keep that in mind.

Ghostly stories are great to hear & share with others. So please have respect. If you are the curious type.
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starstarstarstar 		...to prove this story maybe hard....
by: Anonymous

To weither or not this story holds up or not...tale or no tale. Its a good story.

But the catcher to this is..
Crum: Extraterrestrials used their Tractor Beams and Destroyed the towns. And the Extraterrestrials Took The Townspeople.

So it very well possible that to actually get the history of this hole story may not even be possible. If it were to be true.

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starstarstarstarstar 		haha
by: Bree

the red figure is wearing the same clothes as the person in the photo its nothing paranormal.... as for the boyfriend hanging above the car and the girlfriend hearing dripping, that same story has happened in every city, its called an urban legend.... are you 12?
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starstarstarstarstar 		Is there more than 1 "crum" cemetery...
by: Anonymous

I do apologize for my choice of words. It justs bothers me when people like that, Say an do the things they do. Its really disrepectful.

Also...Would you happen to know if there is more than 1 cemetery to be concidered as Crum. Reason I ask this is from trying to find some history about it, I have came across more than 1 cemetery with that name. That is in the area. An our Team has wanted to check the area out. An we just want to make sure we have the right Crum Cemetery. If you or anyone knows. Please let us know. Thank you so much.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Webmaster Rights
by: Patricia

As webmaster of this website I exercised my rights to edit the last post. I WILL NOT TOLERATE name calling, cursing or threats on this website. This is meant to be a family site. I'm always happy to publish an opinion but opinions can be expressed in a tolerant tone.

This is notice that I will delete any comments that don't meet my expectations.

Patricia (webmaster)
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starstarstarstarstar 		Have Respect
by: Anonymous

OK! First of all, you have no respect. If you're only getting on here to find new hang outs to party an destory. YOUR ON THE WRONG WEBPAGE!! A cemetery is not ment to go an party, carry on, scream, curse ect. If you don't believe in this such story, than oh well. If you would have done your history report before venturing to the location. There is more than one Crum Cemetery in the state of Pennyslvania. An which is near the location of windber!.

For anyone else that decides to venture to this location. First make sure your not siking yourself out an expect things to happen right away. 2nd read up on the HISTORY of the location. So that you know WHY these things may take place. 3rd if your just going to be a jackass...I in all honestly hope those that do watch the property, DO shoot first, Then tell you to get the off their property. Because you deserve it!!! It is NOT a hang out. It is for those that have the interest in its history, and in the paranormal.
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star 		All the information you need!!!
by: Ashley

First of All...
here is a pretty general idea of where to find Crum Cemetery, unlike some, this Cemetery is hard to find, not easily seen.
http://hallow-dfreak-ism.synthasite.com/hallowd.php
This is also what I have found something for Crum Cemetery...
http://www.tribune-democrat.com/local/local_story_286224940.html
This site gives me the names and dates of most of the tombstones in the Cemetery...
http://www.pagenweb.org/~somerset/cemetery/sh/crumoldham.htm
To my discovery, at looking at the list of people buried there, I did not see no Rebecca Crum as said in the story, I do see a Rebbeca Layton, but due to lack of evidence, I do not know if this story is true, but research of the Rebecca Crum story has yet to be determined as true, also as more research continues, at this point I can not find any history what so ever of what and where the Village of Crum use to be. The Cemetery is still there, but no such evidence has given me any answers of when this Village was and what use to be, if anyone should have any answers, I would love to know, email is Skkyblu1106@aol.com, Patty, can't wait to read you and Mark Nesbitt's new book, The big book of Pennsylvania ghost stories, I have tons of questions for you by the way, that will have to wait for later time.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Crums Cemetary
by: Anonymous

So my friend and I have ventured to this place on numerous occasions but NOTHING happened, and we have a story like no other. Well, we stopped on the bridge first (where they say is haunted), shut off our truck, waited awhile...and then got back in, the truck started up...so nothing happened there.
Then we get to the site...my friend, who shall remain nameless, wanted to really tempt fate I guess that night and so after we stayed there a bit we got back in our truck, he rolled the windows down and started screaming at the girl (who supposedly haunts the place) forcing her to show herself. Then when she didn't he started cursing at the top of his lungs calling her certain names, like chicken, coward, bitch, etc. and again nothing happened, my friend wanted to wait about 20 minutes to see if he could hear anything or anything "supernatural" would happen....nothing ever did!
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starstarstarstarstar 		Where
by: Anonymous

Hey does anyone know exactly where crum cemetery is? if you do, email me at ausbeimittnachzu@aim.com. I found crum rd. and i found the second bridge but i still cant seem to find it.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Not to be a downer but...
by: Anonymous

Sure i've been to crum cemetary tons of times, and yeah it can be pretty creepy, but i know the family that it belongs to and if you do go up there please be respectful, dont forget that it is a real cemetary... just because people have done stuff like tipping the stones and leaving garbage everywhere.

also you might want to be careful in the surrounding area because there are some people out there who will shoot first, and then tell you to get off their property.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Crum Cemetary
by: Rich Lehman Sr.

i've written in here before. i plan on fully investigating Crum Cemetary in 1-2 months.. had a tug felt on my pants leg and the voice of a little girl in my ear.... anyone interested in tagging along contact me ar rbljazzy@aol.com . my question is>> is there 2 Crum Cemtaries by Windber? someone writes about crossing a river not far from Crum Cemetary. the only water i ever saw was over a bridge which amounts to a small stream. thats located before you start up the long hill to Crum... contact me and let me know.
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starstarstarstarstar 		Crum or 2 Crum Cemetaries?
by: Rich Lehman

I have written in here numerous times and although i have visited and took pics at Crum Cemetary I plan a full investigation in spring of this year... anyone is more than welcome to go along. my question is>> is there 2 Crum cemetaries around Windber?? because everyone is saying about a river or something but the only water i had seen was the stream u cross over at the bridge before you start up the long dirt hill to Crum Cemetary.. if anyone knows e-mail me at>> rbljazzy@aol.com and if anyone wants to see any ghost pics or Crum Cemetary pics; visit mine at my my space profile.. Warlock 67....u would not believe the things i've seen and heard..
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starstarstarstar 		Wow
by: Anonymous

I live like 10 mins away from this cemetery. We had just went last weekend nothing happened. But the one time I went I was sitting on a log bc I thought it was stupid and something talked or said something...that was enough for me! I will continue to go back until something happens again.

There also is a story of a women who drowned her baby in the river in early 1900's about half a mile from Crum cemetery. And there also is supposedly a portal to hell in the corner of the cemetery.
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starstarstarstarstar 		investigated
by: Rich Lehman

I investigated Crum Cemetary in September 0f 2008. me my 2 daughters and wife.. they were just aloing to be there. i was there to take pics; i didn't get anything on film however my daughter became nauseated and felt sick; and she said someone whispered in her ear... i felt a tug on my pantleg.. going back in spring 2009. you can contact me at rbljazzy@aol.com i investigate anything
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starstarstarstarstar 		Experiences
by: Anonymous

I Have spent nights at Crum Cemetary looking for ghosts and trying to hear things. I had not heard anything until one night I went out with a group of friends. We were drinking having a good time until it was time to leave. We had seen A black figure scatter away from where our cars were parked... Sure enough all of our doors were locked. We stayed together and walked down the road to were we could get cell phone service. None. We walked two hours hearing something in the woods screaming. Sounding like a girl. We finally made it to the town of ogletown. Where we called from a residents home for help. The next morning we returned to our cars. Every door was unlocked and every window was down.
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starstar 		whoa
by: Anonymous

that's crazy!! Are you sure it's not a double exposure?
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starstarstarstarstar 		Super Creepy Picture
by: Patricia

Now that is one of the creepiest pictures I have ever seen. My physical therapist is from Windber area, I'm going to ask him about Crums Cemetary and the legends.

I'm sure your friend was really creeped out when he saw the picture and that thing was right behind him. I'll bet you guys don't want to visit that cemetary again.

Next time I'm in the Johnstown/Windber area I'm going to pay the cemetery a visit.

Thank you so much for sharing the picture and story with us.

Patricia

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